pamphlets are how the government is trying to take away your rights to own guns and obama is doing this and obamacare is terrible. those were the guys i wanted to talk to because they were the guys with the leaflets, the ideas. i said to them, is this your stuff? they said, who are you? pedantic -- i am an academic researcher doing research on these organizations and ideas, trying to understand these, and i study men who believe this stuff. and they looked at me suspiciously and said, sort of asked me questions. i just said, look, here is what i am. i don't get it. here is my job, i went to understand how you guys see the world. i want to understand your worldview. look, you will not convince me, and i will not convince you. that is off the table. what is on the table is i want to understand why you think the way you do. downward mobility, racial and gender equality, michael kimmel on the fear, anxiety, and rage of angry white men, part of book tv, this weekend on c-span two. >> now representative greg walden, chairman of the house energy subcommittee on communications and technology on his plan to u